NDAA: Government files a Reply Brief to Hedges lawsuit.

NDAA: Government files a Reply Brief to Hedges lawsuit.

What me worry Your not going to take that more narrow meaning of the law Are you?! Are you???

And lock  all of us away indefinately with a miltary maybe ours or maybe NATO’s  to the end of the war on terrorism without trial without talking to an attorney..

And the camps are ready too!!


OH He says he has his serious reservations then signs it!
In short I’m not buying it if if they meant it wasn’t a violation of the constitution then they should clearly right it into law which they don’t and all attempt to amend the NDAA to make this clear have failed so what and who are we left to believe the teary eyed Obama for the connecticut shooting or the blast em like a bug in drone kills kids in Pakistan.. I don’t know but Thanks Chris for fighting and I wish a whole lot more like you stood up to protect our constitution from these wall street jackals.


Reply Brief Filed in Hedges

By Benjamin Wittes Repost  prepperpodcast

Friday, December 21, 2012 at 6:41 AM

The government has filed its reply brief in Hedges. The new brief rounds out the briefing, joining the government’s opening brief and the appellees’ brief—along with a bunch of amicus briefs. It opens:

We explained in our opening brief that this suit, brought by a handful of journalists and activists, should have been dismissed for lack of standing because plaintiffs are in no danger whatsoever of being subject to capture and detention by the U.S. military. In addition, the district court erred in entertaining this suit for ex ante relief against the President, as Commander in Chief, to enjoin him from carrying out authority conferred on him by Congress in the conduct of an armed conflict. Their challenges to Section 1021(b)(2) of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) also fail on the merits, and the injunctive order issued by the district court is overbroad in key respects.

In response, plaintiffs argue that the NDAA represented a dramatic change in the scope of the government’s detention authority that instilled in them a newfound fear of military detention. That argument reflects a profound misunderstanding of the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), which has provided for over a decade the detention authority they claim to now fear. Their argument also ignores the NDAA provisions specifying that it does not affect existing law relating to U.S. citizens or individuals in the United States. If anything, the detention authority provided in the NDAA is narrower and more refined than the authority the executive branch asserted earlier in the conflict – a period when plaintiffs do not allege that they feared being detained. Second, plaintiffs misread “substantial support,” and ignore its law of war framework, in claiming it could reasonably be interpreted, as used in the NDAA, to apply to their independent journalism and advocacy activities. It cannot. Instead, key limitations on the term that derive from the law of war show that it does not apply to their independent journalism and advocacy activities, and the government’s representation confirms that it is not applicable to them.

On the merits, while plaintiffs rely on First Amendment cases in support of their standing argument, plaintiffs do not defend the district court’s First Amendment holding. Instead, they now argue only that Section 1021(b)(2) is unconstitutionally vague under the Due Process Clause. But military force authorizations are necessarily written in broad terms, and this one is narrower and more specific than every prior force authorization, fully comporting with due process.

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